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疑港大录音又遭泄 台湾论坛流出


香港大学校务委员会9月29日开闭门会否决法律学院院长陈文敏副校任命,但是会议录音在一个月后的10月28日及30日两度被媒体泄露公开,港大遂申请禁制令禁止媒体泄密,经与媒体协调后撤销,媒体保证再无外泄。然而,第三段疑似香港大学校委会讨论是否任命法学院教授陈文敏为副校长的发言录音11月8日外泄。

录音中的发言者被指是港大校委王易鸣,这名发言者称,港大在过去两年不断分裂,陈文敏虽然是君子(good gentleman),但有强烈政治立场,有潜在争议,或令大学进一步分裂,不适合出任掌管人力资源的副校长,所以否决任命推荐。

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香港大学两周内爆三起录音泄露事件

港大录音,台湾流出这段录音和文字誊本11月8日8时被上载到台湾讨论区“批踢踢实业坊”,上传者“JASON41699(懦夫救星)”。帖子以“今日香港,明日台湾”为题,提及今日习马会,指共产党不可信,香港是“血淋淋的例子”。讨论区上载的录音已被移除,但仍有文字腾本。

港大早前向高等法院申请禁制令,禁止任何人披露校委会会议内容。高等法院上星期五决定延长港大申请的临时禁制令。在疑似王易鸣录音之前,已经有被指是校委李国章和校委纪文凤的录音被泄,引致港大申请禁制令。

被指是王易鸣的女声称,自己十分了解陈文敏,因为他们是伦敦政治经济学院的同学,自己是经过独立思考、未受外力影响、以大学最大利益为出发点否决陈文敏的任命推荐。
女声说,港大两年前开始分裂,包括李克强访港、“占中”、匿名捐款事件乃至副校长任命,分散了大学注意力,让大学无法将眼光放长远,她自己也受够了政治议题主导一切和分裂大学的现象。

女声说,候选人本身有潜在争议,而且有强烈政治立场,未必可以帮助大学团结,相反,可能进一步分裂大学,“不论是黄丝(泛指占领示威支持者)还是蓝丝(泛指占领示威反对者、港府和警方的支持者),我不关心,潜在争议就是存在”。

女声说,自己认为陈文敏是君子,但基于很多原因,他不是完全适合副校长的职位,她对于这个人选没有信心,建议启动新一轮的遴选。

录音中还有一个男声,被指是港大校长马斐森。

男声表示,同意Rosanna(王易鸣洋名)对港大被卷入分裂的分析,但不认为港大因为风波而停滞不前,港大有很多进展,但大家只对争议感兴趣。

王易鸣在继邓莲如女男爵之后,香港史上第二位华人女爵士,她在1997年获得英国王室授予DBE勋衔。

现年63岁的王易鸣,在香港回归前,曾在立法局担任非官守委任议员、也曾在行政局担任非官守议员,一度退出政坛之后,1992年重返行政局,1993年起兼任房屋委员会主席,深得末任港督彭定康信任,对殖民地政府相当有影响力。

1997年之后,王易鸣进入特首董建华的行政会议,留任非官守成员。 1999年,香港爆出居屋短桩丑闻,王易鸣在2000年6月在立法会对其不信任动议表决前辞去房委会主席职务,2002年,王易鸣未获行政会议续任而卸任。但在2001年到2007年期间,她获得港府聘用为教育统筹委员会主席,2003年起获任全国港区政协委员。王易鸣自1996年起任汇丰银行非执行董事,2001年起在长实出任独立非执行董事。

疑似王易鸣录音内容中英文誊本:

Thank you Chairman. I just want to make a few comments, but the comments...when I make this comment that I understand, that I totally understand my duty as a member of the Council, particularly in terms of the appointment of senior executive in this Council. I understand that and I understand the duty. And to me, there is no emotion in that. What I said later is something that I really give a lot of thought into it.

(多谢主席。我想给一点意见。我完全明白任命高级行政人员是校委的职责。对我来说,这不牵涉任何情感。我将会说的话是经过深思熟虑。)
I know this candidate very well. In fact we were in the same class when we were in LSE. So I know the candidate well. It''s not that I don''t understand him, I don''t know him. And I read the paper and every piece of paper on my table, and I exercise my independent thinking without anybody intervening. With the biggest interest of the University, wide and long of the University, and before I make my comment, so I know what I am doing.

(我很了解这位申请者,事实上我们在伦敦政治经济学院是同班同学。我并非不认识他,或不了解他。我阅过案头所有文件,经过独立思考而未受任何人干预。我从港大最大利益,广阔而长远的角度出发,我知道自己正在做什么。)

In the last two years or so, this University, just like Hong Kong, has been undergoing quite a bumpy journey, in a sense that so many things happening in Hong Kong. It started from the University, the8.18 visit of Li Keqiang and also the Occupy Central thing, the donation issue, and recently about this appointment of this Vice President and PVC. In fact the last two years and a half, it''s pretty sickening in a sense, you can see that so many discussion, division, particularly and entirely divided, you know, the community.

(过去两年多,港大正如香港一样走过颠簸的路途,香港发生很多事。从港大的李克强8.18访校事件、占领中环、捐款风波,以至最近副校任命,过去两年半,我对这么多讨论,尤其社会分裂感到很厌恶。)

And I can understand, I mean, University as part of the wider Hong Kong community that reflect whatever happened in Hong Kong in the University, I can understand, but what bother me a lot is about this division, now the problem of this division is that it continues to divide the University.

(我明白港大作为香港社会的一部份,港大发生的事反映香港现况。然而令我很困扰的是分裂,现在问题是这些事情继续分裂港大。)
I don''t talk about Hong Kong, just about this University. It really, I think to me, is becoming a distraction of the University and it prevents the University actually to look longer term. In the last two years, I''ve been sitting in this Council every month, even more work than my own board meeting, but we never have a chance to talk about what makes up this University. Have we ever even think of any opportunities that we should grasp and let this University shine and glow ?

(莫说香港,仅说港大。港大的注意力正被转移,未能长远展望。过去两年,我每个月都出席校委会会议,工作量较我本身的董事局会议还要繁重,但从没机会讨论港大的本质。我们何曾想过把握机遇,让港大发热发亮?)

I''ve been patiently waiting, you know, the new VC coming to this University with a hope that we have a smooth strategy of development. No time. No discussions. Everything has been pre-occupied and dominated by this sided political issue, the issues that are so divided in the community. And I am sickening.

(我耐心等待,期望新校长带来稳妥发展策略。没时间。没讨论。所有事情都被政治议题占据和主导,而社会对这些议题非常分化。我感到很厌恶。)

And then when I think of this appointment, I give a pause into looking into whether this candidate would further divide the University, or unite the University. I asked this question because I want to see this unity, so that we''re able to see this University continue to glow. Because of the potential controversy of this candidate...I don''t say whether, you know, the candidate is wrong or why we can bring this up...because there is a potential controversy. It exists whether you, whatever position you...whether you are on yellow camp or the blue camp...I don''t care. But the potential controversy exists.

(当考虑这项任命,我会检视申请人将进一步分裂港大,还是团结港大。因我希望看见团结,港大才会继续散发光芒。由于申请人具潜在争议,我不是说申请人有错或为何我们须提及这点……这确有潜在争议。不论是黄色还是蓝色阵营,我不在乎,但潜在争议确实存在。)
And because of a strong political position of this candidate, and I do not have enough confidence that this candidate would probably help to unite. But on the contrary, he probably would further divide. Now this is a senior executive position that''s on academic staffing and resources. I''ve been a chair of HRPC for several years. and I think that this is important that we look for person...I think in a lot of cases during my career to appoint a lot of senior executives, persons can be qualified but may not be suitable. I know this candidate well. He''s a good gentleman. But sometimes for a lot of other reasons, he may not be totally suitable. And I have to say, because of the controversy that exists, because of his strong political position, because of the potential risk of further divide the community, I have to say I do not have enough confidence to accept this recommendation. And I want the candidate, at least, the future PVC or the Vice President, must be able to unite and must not politicize the working place that he is working in.

(由于申请人具强烈政治取向,我没有足够信心他能帮助港大团结,反之他可能进一步分裂港大。这是关于学术人事及资源的高级行政职位,我在(校委会属下)人力资源政策委员会当了数年主席,我认为挑选人选时关键在于……我过去工作上聘请过很多高级行政人员,很多个案都是符合资格但并不合适。我很了解这名申请人。他是一个好人。但有时基于很多其他原因,他或许不是最合适。我必须说明,基于现时存在的争议、基于申请人的强烈政治立场、基于进一步令社会分裂的潜在风险,我必须指出我没有足够信心去接受这项(物色委员会推荐陈文敏)建议。我要求未来的副校必须能够团结港大,而非令其工作环境政治化。)

So on that basis, Chairman, I would suggest that we go for another search and I cannot accept the recommendation as proposed. Thank you.

(基于以上原因,主席,我建议大家另觅人选。我不能接受此建议。多谢。)

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