顺便说一下美国的几所本科航空母舰学校。这几所学校挺搞笑的，包括UTexas, OSU, UMN, ASU和UFL. 都说Berkeley或者UMich人多，可能他们那儿faculty确实多，但实际上本科生人数Berkeley从来没进过前10,UMich近几年退出了前10。而中间这一块这几个学校是最惨的。刚才我说了UMN, 其实UTexas, OSU也都比较well-rounded, 各方面都不错，而不是像很多人所想得除了自己熟知的学科其他的都很差才排这么低的。但是庞大的本科生群体让他们的本科排名就是排不高。
UTexas, OSU, UMN, ASU, UFL这几所学校常年都是本科人数的top 5. 里面UFL的本科算是一枝独秀, 比其他几个明显高很多也稳定很多，历年都是top 50, 而且并没有缩编计划. 因为UFL在FL可以说一统天下。Florida没有什么好的liberal arts college, 唯一的私立研究型大学UMiami称为私立的大学，公立的学费。非常照顾州内学生，所以本科排名一直都没超过UFL。UFL虽然学生多，人数稳定在4,5 名，但是老师也多，像EE有70个faculty, 里面不乏有讲师。而且生源一直都很好，平均入学本科生GPA 3.8以上。这样虽然他的入学率很高，class size很大，faculty跟student的ratio很小（这也比另外的几所强），但是它至少有一样可以保证，就是SAT score和GPA.
其余的几个就比较惨。最惨的当然是ASU,其他的三个UTexas, OSU, UMN以前一直是学生数前3。本科排名也非常反映这个。因为这几个学校的peer assesment score半斤八两，就看谁招人少谁取胜。UTexas不管是有意还是无意的缩编以前，本科排名低于OSU和UMN，而OSU和UMN经常并列。但是近几年UTexas学生数排名开始下跌，由一直以来的高居榜首先跌到第3，后来跌到了05年的第五，已经出了前3。排名也超过了OSU和UMN. OSU现在人数也在减少。所谓不退则进，现在学生数的前两位是ASU和UMN.而且ASU以前一直是4,5位，现在荣登榜首。
UMN本来 faculty就不多，像ECE公立大学不到50个faculty的并不是很常见，但是UMN就是只有45个，而且基本上没有讲师，都是research faculty, research faculty上课少，面临严重的faculty/student ratio和class size的问题，附近又有Carleton, St. Johns之类的著名小college抢优秀生源。所以05年在Texas, OSU等学校人数减少的情况下，一下子就把UMN推向了低谷。
现在UMN开始有意缩编，当然UMN从来不提及USNews的本科排名，向来以自己是研究型大学为豪。现在缩编的目的声称是10年以内建成世界公立research前3（这个目的比较可笑）， 以UFL TheCenter的研究排名作为参照，像UMich等学校学习。缩编的目的主要是为了省出funding用于研究生院。而且因为General College毕业率太低，决定将其合并。当然不管什么目的，效果都是一样的。就是美国的小本科生读书越来越难了，还有就是这几所实力差不多的超大号学校之间的排名上下浮动。本来公立学校，尤其是land-granted的公立学校，一开始建立的目的就是为了给本州不富裕的学生提供最大限度的受教育机会，以及为州和国家提供一流的研究。而现在各个学校的做法已经背离了这个目的，越来越向私立学校的方向发展。像UVA这种的本科似乎成为最终的发展方向。这个很难讲是好事还是坏事。反正本科生尤其是高中生对这个评价非常不好。但是大学们还在在这么变化着。
下面是历年学生数统计，虽然这个包括本科生和研究生，但是因为研究生比例很小，基本上反映了本科生的相对数量。值得一提的是，学生总数的多少并不反映faculty数量的多少以及PhD招生数的多少。在5万多这个数字面前，PhD的比例实在太小了。而招生数跟funding等诸多因素有关。
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This list of largest United States universities by enrollment includes only individual campuses of four-year universities. Enrollment numbers listed are the sum of undergraduate and graduate students.
Top 10 as of Fall 2005:
51,712: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
51,175: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
50,504: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
49,650: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
49,333: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
45,166: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
45,090: University of Central Florida - Orlando, FL
44,647: Texas A&M University - College Station, TX
43,021: University of South Florida - Tampa, FL
41,480: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
Top 10 as of Fall 2004:
50,995: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
50,954: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
50,377: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
49,171: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
47,993: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
44,836: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
44,435: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
42,950: University of South Florida - Tampa, FL
42,837: University of Central Florida - Orlando, FL
41,289: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
Top 10 as of Fall 2003:
51,426: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
50,731: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
49,474: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
48,901: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
47,585: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
44,813: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
44,542: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
41,795: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
41,685: University of Central Florida - Orlando, FL
41,595: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
Top 10 as of Fall 2002:
52,261: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
49,676: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
48,677: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
47,373: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
47,359: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
45,083: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
44,973: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
41,462: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
41,445: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
39,828: University of Washington - Seattle, WA
Top 10 as of Fall 2001:
50,616: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
48,447: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
46,597: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
46,515: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
45,693: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
44,618: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
44,227: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
apx. 41,000: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
40,828: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
39,882: Purdue University - West Lafayette, IN
Top 10 as of Fall 2000:
49,996: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
47,952: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
45,481: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
45,114: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
44,126: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
44,026: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
43,366: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
40,571: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
40,468: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
40,408: University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - Ann Arbor, MI
Top 10 as of Fall 1999:
49,009: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
48,003: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
45,361: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
44,215: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
43,442: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
43,382: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
43,038: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
40,700: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
40,658: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
37,846: University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - Ann Arbor, MI
Top 10 as of Fall 1998:
48,906: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
48,511: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
46,973: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
43,732: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
43,389: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
43,189: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
42,336: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
41,050: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
39,565: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
37,197: University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - Ann Arbor, MI
Top 10 as of Fall 1997:
48,857: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
48,278: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
45,410: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
44,255: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
42,603: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
41,713: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
41,461: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
40,538: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
39,700: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
38,070: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - Champaign, IL
Top 10 as of Fall 1996:
51,388: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis, MN
48,352: Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
48,008: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
42,463: Arizona State University - Tempe, AZ
41,892: Texas A&M University-College Station - College Station, TX
41,545: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI
39,863: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL
39,855: Pennsylvania State University-University Park - University Park, PA
39,290: University of Wisconsin–Madison - Madison, WI
38,841: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - Champaign, IL
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